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> <channel><title>Comments on: THE GREAT SLEEP DEBATE: Tell Us What You Think!</title> <atom:link href="http://www.inhabitots.com/2009/02/25/the-great-sleep-debate-tell-us-what-you-think/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.inhabitots.com/2009/02/25/the-great-sleep-debate-tell-us-what-you-think/</link> <description>Sustainable design for the next generation!</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:40:33 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Wizzze</title><link>http://www.inhabitots.com/2009/02/25/the-great-sleep-debate-tell-us-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-10641</link> <dc:creator>Wizzze</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:33:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitots.com/?p=9908#comment-10641</guid> <description>I have to agree with Kiki&#039;s response above.
When you thought about having children, did you ever thought it was going to be easy, did you eat up those stories about how children are more manageable now because of technology? when exactly did you hit puberty because that is just not true. I know you weren&#039;t born yesterday either or that you have babies teeth still but c&#039;mon people! If you have a child, get ready to wake up between 2 and 5 or 6 times a night and still get up for work and put in a full day, put up with people and problems and still get home and put a smile in your face when the kid just smiles at you because you are home and genuinely missed you while you where gone.
I personally loved every minute I spent with my son, now 4, when I had to change diapers in the middle of the night or feed him. I would put some soothing music on and let the wife sleep, feed him in the rocking chair and sing for him until he&#039;d fall asleep in my arms.
The difference is that I knew what I was getting into, yes, I did not get all the sleep that I wanted, and yes I was tired, but the moment I knew my wife was pregnant my son became a priority and handled it as such. So think about it, you are able to put up with stupid people at work and an overbooked agenda as well as cell phones ringing and people asking you to do everything for them at work but you are unable to take 20 minutes out of your life to feed your children? It does not take long to do and they fall right asleep.
For those of you wanting to know the secret, let me spoil it for you, there is NO secret!
Basics you need to know, there are 3 reasons why babies cry: 1, diaper stuff (poop, pee, too tight, rash, sticker side exposed to skin etc...); 2, hungry; 3, sick. Now rule them out and you got yourself a happy kid.
As Kiki says: It does not last forever! Eventually he or she will sleep through the night and you will have a better relationship with your child because of the time and effort you have given him and they see that.
How many time you see a person on the street on their PJ&#039;s walking a dog that looks like a rat and have to pick up their droppings at 5 or 6 AM and it is cold outside? but those same people are unable to change a diaper at 2 AM for their own son? or complain about it left and tight? or buy a ton of books for something that should be common sense? where have the women of yesterday gone? mothers nowadays that are unable to figure out if their child has a fever by touch and they need to get them to a hospital just so that they can put a thermometer in their mouth?
Think about it. It is love and affection, principles and values that makes a good parent, not the Sears books or some supposed to be &quot;expert&quot; that tells you to leave your son crying over and over and over when what he needs is some love and affection and is probably hungry.
Be firm when you need to, carry out what you say to him, keep the promises you make to him/her, love them and care for them because they did not ask to be here, YOU put them here, it is YOUR responsibility to care for them.... so grow up!!!!! or don&#039;t have them at all, buy a dog instead and walk him in bitter cold at 6 AM and pick their poop up from the floor!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Kiki&#8217;s response above.<br
/> When you thought about having children, did you ever thought it was going to be easy, did you eat up those stories about how children are more manageable now because of technology? when exactly did you hit puberty because that is just not true. I know you weren&#8217;t born yesterday either or that you have babies teeth still but c&#8217;mon people! If you have a child, get ready to wake up between 2 and 5 or 6 times a night and still get up for work and put in a full day, put up with people and problems and still get home and put a smile in your face when the kid just smiles at you because you are home and genuinely missed you while you where gone.<br
/> I personally loved every minute I spent with my son, now 4, when I had to change diapers in the middle of the night or feed him. I would put some soothing music on and let the wife sleep, feed him in the rocking chair and sing for him until he&#8217;d fall asleep in my arms.<br
/> The difference is that I knew what I was getting into, yes, I did not get all the sleep that I wanted, and yes I was tired, but the moment I knew my wife was pregnant my son became a priority and handled it as such. So think about it, you are able to put up with stupid people at work and an overbooked agenda as well as cell phones ringing and people asking you to do everything for them at work but you are unable to take 20 minutes out of your life to feed your children? It does not take long to do and they fall right asleep.<br
/> For those of you wanting to know the secret, let me spoil it for you, there is NO secret!<br
/> Basics you need to know, there are 3 reasons why babies cry: 1, diaper stuff (poop, pee, too tight, rash, sticker side exposed to skin etc&#8230;); 2, hungry; 3, sick. Now rule them out and you got yourself a happy kid.<br
/> As Kiki says: It does not last forever! Eventually he or she will sleep through the night and you will have a better relationship with your child because of the time and effort you have given him and they see that.<br
/> How many time you see a person on the street on their PJ&#8217;s walking a dog that looks like a rat and have to pick up their droppings at 5 or 6 AM and it is cold outside? but those same people are unable to change a diaper at 2 AM for their own son? or complain about it left and tight? or buy a ton of books for something that should be common sense? where have the women of yesterday gone? mothers nowadays that are unable to figure out if their child has a fever by touch and they need to get them to a hospital just so that they can put a thermometer in their mouth?<br
/> Think about it. It is love and affection, principles and values that makes a good parent, not the Sears books or some supposed to be &#8220;expert&#8221; that tells you to leave your son crying over and over and over when what he needs is some love and affection and is probably hungry.<br
/> Be firm when you need to, carry out what you say to him, keep the promises you make to him/her, love them and care for them because they did not ask to be here, YOU put them here, it is YOUR responsibility to care for them&#8230;. so grow up!!!!! or don&#8217;t have them at all, buy a dog instead and walk him in bitter cold at 6 AM and pick their poop up from the floor!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kiki</title><link>http://www.inhabitots.com/2009/02/25/the-great-sleep-debate-tell-us-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-10400</link> <dc:creator>kiki</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 02:46:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitots.com/?p=9908#comment-10400</guid> <description>Our son is now 22 months and still sleeps in our bed. He still nurses at least 3 times through the night... he may sleep about 5 hours and then nurses. I don&#039;t really care that I am somewhat tired and don&#039;t get a solid nights sleep. I know this won&#039;t last forever and I totally disagree that children need to be forced to learn how to self soothe. They will learn to self soothe when they are ready to handle that. My son is happy and independent - and I attribute that to attachment parenting. I am happy and fulfilled that I am giving my child as much as I can at this time in his life... I knew going into parenting that my life would change. I am happy to let my son nurse and co-sleep as long as he needs. We wake up every morning with a song and a smile for each other - it is warm and loving.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our son is now 22 months and still sleeps in our bed. He still nurses at least 3 times through the night&#8230; he may sleep about 5 hours and then nurses. I don&#8217;t really care that I am somewhat tired and don&#8217;t get a solid nights sleep. I know this won&#8217;t last forever and I totally disagree that children need to be forced to learn how to self soothe. They will learn to self soothe when they are ready to handle that. My son is happy and independent &#8211; and I attribute that to attachment parenting. I am happy and fulfilled that I am giving my child as much as I can at this time in his life&#8230; I knew going into parenting that my life would change. I am happy to let my son nurse and co-sleep as long as he needs. We wake up every morning with a song and a smile for each other &#8211; it is warm and loving.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: enjoigreen</title><link>http://www.inhabitots.com/2009/02/25/the-great-sleep-debate-tell-us-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-6975</link> <dc:creator>enjoigreen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:56:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitots.com/?p=9908#comment-6975</guid> <description>My daughter is 5 and almost every night I wake up to the sensation of someone watching me. I open my eyes and there she is, stuffed puppy in hand staring at me... &quot;hi mommy...I can&#039;t sleep can we cuddle?&quot;  Geez how can I resist that.. I scoot over as close to my husband as I can and let her come on my side of the bed.In the morning my husband is always like &quot;Our bed is too small for all of us!&quot;  And me and my daughter just giggle.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daughter is 5 and almost every night I wake up to the sensation of someone watching me. I open my eyes and there she is, stuffed puppy in hand staring at me&#8230; &#8220;hi mommy&#8230;I can&#8217;t sleep can we cuddle?&#8221;  Geez how can I resist that.. I scoot over as close to my husband as I can and let her come on my side of the bed.</p><p>In the morning my husband is always like &#8220;Our bed is too small for all of us!&#8221;  And me and my daughter just giggle.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Inhabitots &#187; Inhabitots Link Roundup of the Week</title><link>http://www.inhabitots.com/2009/02/25/the-great-sleep-debate-tell-us-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-5565</link> <dc:creator>Inhabitots &#187; Inhabitots Link Roundup of the Week</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:01:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitots.com/?p=9908#comment-5565</guid> <description>[...] and sleep training/cry it out advocate Marc Weissbluth, M.D. We&#8217;re very interested in the sleep debates, but we wonder if Weissbluth taking to his blog to debunk Sears&#8217; research is going to help [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and sleep training/cry it out advocate Marc Weissbluth, M.D. We&#8217;re very interested in the sleep debates, but we wonder if Weissbluth taking to his blog to debunk Sears&#8217; research is going to help [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TickTock</title><link>http://www.inhabitots.com/2009/02/25/the-great-sleep-debate-tell-us-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-2955</link> <dc:creator>TickTock</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:49:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitots.com/?p=9908#comment-2955</guid> <description>Our first child slept with us until he was 6 months old. I enjoyed co-sleeping and it made bedtime a lot more fun than usual. Sure he woke up a couple times a night but we became adept at getting him fed and asleep before we got annoyed at the crying... I think it&#039;s that sound and not the lack of sleep that is the worst. Though he&#039;s 15 months now, so maybe I&#039;ve blocked it out!We also had a schedule for him too. It became more developed as he got older. Bedtime was, eat before 5pm and then wait until he was really ornery and hungry around 7,8 or 9 and then give him a long bath to draw out the time, but keep him comfortable. Then finally get him into bed and feed him. Usually he would pass out for long periods. This got better as time went on. Soon it was one feeding in the middle of the night only.We never got the crib mastered and he and I got into some real power struggles that I now regret having. I am dead against crying it out... not from reading anything but having tried it. There&#039;s no way that&#039;s good for your baby. It was by chance that when we moved recently we just put a futon mattress on the ground in his new room and locked up the drawers and sockets and we just throw him in there. He is infinitely happier being able to roam around until he gets tired enough to sleep. Usually we have to lay him down with an ounce or two in a bottle so we can escape the room without it being the focus of his attention. We get a lot of weird looks when people look at his room, but it&#039;s worked well for us.Good luck - I don&#039;t think having a baby is rocket surgery, you&#039;re hardwired to be a parent, just listen to your gut and your baby!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our first child slept with us until he was 6 months old. I enjoyed co-sleeping and it made bedtime a lot more fun than usual. Sure he woke up a couple times a night but we became adept at getting him fed and asleep before we got annoyed at the crying&#8230; I think it&#8217;s that sound and not the lack of sleep that is the worst. Though he&#8217;s 15 months now, so maybe I&#8217;ve blocked it out!</p><p>We also had a schedule for him too. It became more developed as he got older. Bedtime was, eat before 5pm and then wait until he was really ornery and hungry around 7,8 or 9 and then give him a long bath to draw out the time, but keep him comfortable. Then finally get him into bed and feed him. Usually he would pass out for long periods. This got better as time went on. Soon it was one feeding in the middle of the night only.</p><p>We never got the crib mastered and he and I got into some real power struggles that I now regret having. I am dead against crying it out&#8230; not from reading anything but having tried it. There&#8217;s no way that&#8217;s good for your baby. It was by chance that when we moved recently we just put a futon mattress on the ground in his new room and locked up the drawers and sockets and we just throw him in there. He is infinitely happier being able to roam around until he gets tired enough to sleep. Usually we have to lay him down with an ounce or two in a bottle so we can escape the room without it being the focus of his attention. We get a lot of weird looks when people look at his room, but it&#8217;s worked well for us.</p><p>Good luck &#8211; I don&#8217;t think having a baby is rocket surgery, you&#8217;re hardwired to be a parent, just listen to your gut and your baby!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Deb_momof2</title><link>http://www.inhabitots.com/2009/02/25/the-great-sleep-debate-tell-us-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-2948</link> <dc:creator>Deb_momof2</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:24:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitots.com/?p=9908#comment-2948</guid> <description>Oh the great sleep debate!I have two little ones, now 5 and 3, and wow are they both so different but the one thing I did the same with both of them was nursed them exclusively until they weened themselves. But from experience I would say that the most important thing to remember is to get some sleep regardless of what method works for you and your family.With my first, I was a firm believer in co-sleeping. It was convenient for both me and my son. He would just graze all night long on my breast while I slept peacefully. However I had no clue of what I was getting myself into once I became pregnant with my second and I still had a 18 month old in the bed with me, not to mention I had gone bad to work once my son turned a year old. As I was getting further into my pregnancy I was running out of room in the family bed, I was losing sleep and really not enjoying my second pregnancy. It was then that I decided co-sleeping with my little on was just not going to work any longer. This is where the nasty problem revealed itself, convincing my almost 2 year old that he was a big boy and could sleep in his own room in a big boy bed. Unfortunately he was not buying into this and fought my husband and I with everything a little two year old could muster up. After two extremely long and sleepless months of helping my son to learn how to self-sooth, he finally mastered sleeping in his own room. Needless to say my last trimester of my second pregnancy was absolutely miserable.So once my second was born, a little girl, it was almost like she had learned in utero that mommy and daddy really are please with good sleepers, LOL.  She was an angel when it came to sleeping, she loved to sleep alone in her bassinet and was sleeping through the night by 4mths of age. She transferred beautifully into her crib in her own room around 5 months. And has been an angelic sleeper ever since. So I truly think it is a combination of both the child and parent and what works for all parties involved when it comes to sleep.But the one big thing I learned is that every child needs to learn to self-sooth and the sooner the better!Three years later we are all healthy and sleeping great. One would never know that my son was exclusively breast feed and practiced co-sleeping with his parents for two years. He fought us tooth and nail for two long months because he never taught himself to self-sooth and we never gave him a chance until he was already stuck into a routine which he obviously had gotten attached to.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh the great sleep debate!</p><p>I have two little ones, now 5 and 3, and wow are they both so different but the one thing I did the same with both of them was nursed them exclusively until they weened themselves. But from experience I would say that the most important thing to remember is to get some sleep regardless of what method works for you and your family.</p><p>With my first, I was a firm believer in co-sleeping. It was convenient for both me and my son. He would just graze all night long on my breast while I slept peacefully. However I had no clue of what I was getting myself into once I became pregnant with my second and I still had a 18 month old in the bed with me, not to mention I had gone bad to work once my son turned a year old. As I was getting further into my pregnancy I was running out of room in the family bed, I was losing sleep and really not enjoying my second pregnancy. It was then that I decided co-sleeping with my little on was just not going to work any longer. This is where the nasty problem revealed itself, convincing my almost 2 year old that he was a big boy and could sleep in his own room in a big boy bed. Unfortunately he was not buying into this and fought my husband and I with everything a little two year old could muster up. After two extremely long and sleepless months of helping my son to learn how to self-sooth, he finally mastered sleeping in his own room. Needless to say my last trimester of my second pregnancy was absolutely miserable.</p><p>So once my second was born, a little girl, it was almost like she had learned in utero that mommy and daddy really are please with good sleepers, LOL.  She was an angel when it came to sleeping, she loved to sleep alone in her bassinet and was sleeping through the night by 4mths of age. She transferred beautifully into her crib in her own room around 5 months. And has been an angelic sleeper ever since. So I truly think it is a combination of both the child and parent and what works for all parties involved when it comes to sleep.</p><p>But the one big thing I learned is that every child needs to learn to self-sooth and the sooner the better!</p><p>Three years later we are all healthy and sleeping great. One would never know that my son was exclusively breast feed and practiced co-sleeping with his parents for two years. He fought us tooth and nail for two long months because he never taught himself to self-sooth and we never gave him a chance until he was already stuck into a routine which he obviously had gotten attached to.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tatta</title><link>http://www.inhabitots.com/2009/02/25/the-great-sleep-debate-tell-us-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-2938</link> <dc:creator>tatta</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:58:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitots.com/?p=9908#comment-2938</guid> <description>I&#039;m a mother of an almost three year old little girl, who nursed until last Christmas and sleeps with us. Until she was a year and a half she nursed pretty much on demand, and sure there were times i really didn&#039;t want to wake up 4 times at time to nurse her, but the thought woulg go away as soon as i looked at her nursing.We&#039; have been trying to get her on her own bed gradually and most times i fall asleep in her bed!she already naps in her bed with no problem.
I feel very confident that i&#039;ve done the best for our family, it probably won&#039;t wok for everyone and who should  be able to choose and feel confortable with what works for you and your family.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a mother of an almost three year old little girl, who nursed until last Christmas and sleeps with us. Until she was a year and a half she nursed pretty much on demand, and sure there were times i really didn&#8217;t want to wake up 4 times at time to nurse her, but the thought woulg go away as soon as i looked at her nursing.We&#8217; have been trying to get her on her own bed gradually and most times i fall asleep in her bed!she already naps in her bed with no problem.<br
/> I feel very confident that i&#8217;ve done the best for our family, it probably won&#8217;t wok for everyone and who should  be able to choose and feel confortable with what works for you and your family.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lien</title><link>http://www.inhabitots.com/2009/02/25/the-great-sleep-debate-tell-us-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-2937</link> <dc:creator>Lien</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:11:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitots.com/?p=9908#comment-2937</guid> <description>At the aparently universal question (I’m a belgian mom) “does your baby sleep through the night”, I answer with “do you?” It seems to me a very unnatural thing to actually sleep through a whole night.  But waking up every 30 minutes isn’t right too.My now 4 year old had lots of difficulties falling asleep. Untill she was 2 she woke up at night many times. I wasn’t a single mom, but had a not helping husband. She only fell asleep breastfeeding, untill she was one and a half, and when she finally slept, she woke up immediatly when I tried to release my breast (putting her to bed could take two or more hours). And during the night she could easily wake up for 6-7 times. Cosleeping was a clearly made pre-birth choise, and in these curcumstances the only possible one. I was able to feed lying down (as being a “gifted woman” ;-) ) and fall asleep again while nursing. I won’t say I didn’t notice her waking up, I do was tired (!),  but it made things easier to carry.Crying out was not an option for me. As it is babies only way to express a feeling, why ignore this expression and give the idea that being sad, being angry, being afraid is a “wrong emotion”?  A crying out baby really stops crying after a while, but not because he isn’t sad anymore, but probably discouraged and apathic.
At the most frustrating moments I kept that in mind.  I learnd about “one-minute-meditations”, and created my own way of meditating during these everlasting nursing moments. It took away the frustrations and gave me a moment for reflecting my day, finding rest, making plans,...  Being that calm myself, I noticed that my daughter fell asleep easier, and faster.She stopped waking up that much by herself, and when she moved to her own room (at the age of two and a half) it went smooth and without any problems. She took her own  tempo to achieve this. She still wakes up, takes a sip of water and falls asleep again. She’s a wonderful and happy child and talks very well about her feelings.My relationship with her father stranded, which was very sad for all of us. But well-blessed with a child that could talk about her feelings, made it for her easier to deal with the divorce.I have a second daughter now, of 8 months. When I put her to bed, I nurse her, but the moment she stops the actual drinking, I take away the breast and stay next to her. She puts her hand on my face to be sure that I ‘m still there, after a few minutes I can leave the room. When she wakes up, my husband takes her in his arms, which is not always succeful, but little by little she learns that he’s there too, and it’s good with him too. At night she wakes up 2-3 times. We have had some harder nights too, at these moments she ends up in the middle of the bed (instead of on my side) , more in his than in my arms, with me talking to her.I guess it looks a bit like the Sears-method.A helping thought for these diffucult moments: its difficult for us, but more difficult for the baby, they don’t understand and I ‘m convinced that they really want to sleep, but just not always not know how to find that sleep.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the aparently universal question (I’m a belgian mom) “does your baby sleep through the night”, I answer with “do you?” It seems to me a very unnatural thing to actually sleep through a whole night.  But waking up every 30 minutes isn’t right too.</p><p>My now 4 year old had lots of difficulties falling asleep. Untill she was 2 she woke up at night many times. I wasn’t a single mom, but had a not helping husband. She only fell asleep breastfeeding, untill she was one and a half, and when she finally slept, she woke up immediatly when I tried to release my breast (putting her to bed could take two or more hours). And during the night she could easily wake up for 6-7 times. Cosleeping was a clearly made pre-birth choise, and in these curcumstances the only possible one. I was able to feed lying down (as being a “gifted woman” <img
src='http://www.inhabitots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) and fall asleep again while nursing. I won’t say I didn’t notice her waking up, I do was tired (!),  but it made things easier to carry.</p><p>Crying out was not an option for me. As it is babies only way to express a feeling, why ignore this expression and give the idea that being sad, being angry, being afraid is a “wrong emotion”?  A crying out baby really stops crying after a while, but not because he isn’t sad anymore, but probably discouraged and apathic.<br
/> At the most frustrating moments I kept that in mind.  I learnd about “one-minute-meditations”, and created my own way of meditating during these everlasting nursing moments. It took away the frustrations and gave me a moment for reflecting my day, finding rest, making plans,&#8230;  Being that calm myself, I noticed that my daughter fell asleep easier, and faster.</p><p>She stopped waking up that much by herself, and when she moved to her own room (at the age of two and a half) it went smooth and without any problems. She took her own  tempo to achieve this. She still wakes up, takes a sip of water and falls asleep again. She’s a wonderful and happy child and talks very well about her feelings.</p><p>My relationship with her father stranded, which was very sad for all of us. But well-blessed with a child that could talk about her feelings, made it for her easier to deal with the divorce.</p><p>I have a second daughter now, of 8 months. When I put her to bed, I nurse her, but the moment she stops the actual drinking, I take away the breast and stay next to her. She puts her hand on my face to be sure that I ‘m still there, after a few minutes I can leave the room. When she wakes up, my husband takes her in his arms, which is not always succeful, but little by little she learns that he’s there too, and it’s good with him too. At night she wakes up 2-3 times. We have had some harder nights too, at these moments she ends up in the middle of the bed (instead of on my side) , more in his than in my arms, with me talking to her.</p><p>I guess it looks a bit like the Sears-method.</p><p>A helping thought for these diffucult moments: its difficult for us, but more difficult for the baby, they don’t understand and I ‘m convinced that they really want to sleep, but just not always not know how to find that sleep.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Amanda Hayes</title><link>http://www.inhabitots.com/2009/02/25/the-great-sleep-debate-tell-us-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-2934</link> <dc:creator>Amanda Hayes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:58:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitots.com/?p=9908#comment-2934</guid> <description>I am a big believer in both self-soothing and routines.  As an educator, I have heard time and time again in child psychology courses that kids need consistency, and I have seen it to be very true in the classroom.  When I became pregnant with my first child, I was not the typical nervous first time mom.  I&#039;ve been a nanny for over 5 years and so I definitely have some experience with babies :-)I set out with a plan and I&#039;ve stuck to it all along, resulting in my son sleeping 8 hours straight at 8 weeks old, and 10.5 hours after that until I finally relinquished our late evening feeding to allow for 12 hours of sleep at 7 months old.  All of this was accomplished with no crying on his part or mine, it just naturally fell into place.  Several books suggested the eat, play, sleep cycle to a baby&#039;s day.  Part of the reasoning is to try not to create an association between nursing (or bottle feeding) and sleep.  Also, with the new back-sleeping campaign against SIDS, babies often suffer from gas pains if they are fed and then immediately laid on their backs to sleep.  On the rare occasion I did that, my son woke screaming after 30-45 minutes.  So I always feed him as soon as he wakes from his naps, then I burp him well, and we play for awhile.The second thing I&#039;ve come across is the idea that babies are easily overtired and overstimulated.  The ideal amount of waketime for a newborn is somewhere around 45-60 minutes, a 4 month old is often 1-1.5 hours, a 6 month old 1.5-2 hours, and so on. If you keep a baby up beyond that, they often cannot fall asleep, much the same as when we as adults stay up too late doing something fun and cannot calm down enough to sleep.   To figure out your individual baby&#039;s ideal waketime, it&#039;s best to keep a log of feeding times, waketimes, and how long it took them to fall to sleep for a couple days.  You will start to see a pattern emerge, pointing to a specific amount of waketime being more conducive to good naps than other amounts.   A 9-16 month old needs 2 naps, then sometime between 14 and 18 months they gradually transition to 1 nap, along with 12 hours of nighttime sleep.  *Note, the amount of waketime includes time spent eating.I also subscribe to the theory that it&#039;s okay for babies to fuss for as much as 20 minutes before falling to sleep.  The AAP even says that this is an acceptable amount of time and will cause no harm to a child or the child&#039;s relationship with the parents.  I always checked on my son frequently as he fell asleep and made sure I was doing everything I could to help him sleep.  I didn&#039;t keep him up too long, I changed his diaper right before naps, I spent 5 minutes before naps holding and rocking him to settle him down, sometimes we read a book.  He also has a soft blankie with him that he likes to play with as he falls to sleep it&#039;s a familiar, comforting play item that doesn&#039;t overstimulate him with bright colors or music like a mobile would.As for co-sleeping, I was not raised in a co-sleeping family and neither was my husband,  In our home, we decided that with our entire home being open to our new sweet baby, and all of our daytime hours spent with caring for and cuddling with this lovable baby, we needed to retain our bed as the marriage bed.  We try to put each other first when possible, it&#039;s so easy to put your kids first in everything, they come into the world so tiny and lovable and instantly have your heartstrings firmly in their grasp.  A marriage, i believe, takes a conscious commitment and keeping our marriage bed a place where we can nurture each other&#039;s needs is important to us.  I honestly haven&#039;t seen many well-rested co-sleeping parents, which is something you&#039;re discovering, so I suppose that has been a definite benefit :-)  My son likes his crib, he feels safe and comfortable there, it&#039;s made specifically with the safety of a baby in mind.  We make it a pleasant place and he even plays there sometimes as I wash off his cloth diapers after changing him.  I think those things are key when asking a child to sleep anywhere, that it be a safe, secure, and comfortable place.  Almost any place can be like that if approached with the right attitude by the parent.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a big believer in both self-soothing and routines.  As an educator, I have heard time and time again in child psychology courses that kids need consistency, and I have seen it to be very true in the classroom.  When I became pregnant with my first child, I was not the typical nervous first time mom.  I&#8217;ve been a nanny for over 5 years and so I definitely have some experience with babies <img
src='http://www.inhabitots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>I set out with a plan and I&#8217;ve stuck to it all along, resulting in my son sleeping 8 hours straight at 8 weeks old, and 10.5 hours after that until I finally relinquished our late evening feeding to allow for 12 hours of sleep at 7 months old.  All of this was accomplished with no crying on his part or mine, it just naturally fell into place.  Several books suggested the eat, play, sleep cycle to a baby&#8217;s day.  Part of the reasoning is to try not to create an association between nursing (or bottle feeding) and sleep.  Also, with the new back-sleeping campaign against SIDS, babies often suffer from gas pains if they are fed and then immediately laid on their backs to sleep.  On the rare occasion I did that, my son woke screaming after 30-45 minutes.  So I always feed him as soon as he wakes from his naps, then I burp him well, and we play for awhile.</p><p>The second thing I&#8217;ve come across is the idea that babies are easily overtired and overstimulated.  The ideal amount of waketime for a newborn is somewhere around 45-60 minutes, a 4 month old is often 1-1.5 hours, a 6 month old 1.5-2 hours, and so on. If you keep a baby up beyond that, they often cannot fall asleep, much the same as when we as adults stay up too late doing something fun and cannot calm down enough to sleep.   To figure out your individual baby&#8217;s ideal waketime, it&#8217;s best to keep a log of feeding times, waketimes, and how long it took them to fall to sleep for a couple days.  You will start to see a pattern emerge, pointing to a specific amount of waketime being more conducive to good naps than other amounts.   A 9-16 month old needs 2 naps, then sometime between 14 and 18 months they gradually transition to 1 nap, along with 12 hours of nighttime sleep.  *Note, the amount of waketime includes time spent eating.</p><p>I also subscribe to the theory that it&#8217;s okay for babies to fuss for as much as 20 minutes before falling to sleep.  The AAP even says that this is an acceptable amount of time and will cause no harm to a child or the child&#8217;s relationship with the parents.  I always checked on my son frequently as he fell asleep and made sure I was doing everything I could to help him sleep.  I didn&#8217;t keep him up too long, I changed his diaper right before naps, I spent 5 minutes before naps holding and rocking him to settle him down, sometimes we read a book.  He also has a soft blankie with him that he likes to play with as he falls to sleep it&#8217;s a familiar, comforting play item that doesn&#8217;t overstimulate him with bright colors or music like a mobile would.</p><p>As for co-sleeping, I was not raised in a co-sleeping family and neither was my husband,  In our home, we decided that with our entire home being open to our new sweet baby, and all of our daytime hours spent with caring for and cuddling with this lovable baby, we needed to retain our bed as the marriage bed.  We try to put each other first when possible, it&#8217;s so easy to put your kids first in everything, they come into the world so tiny and lovable and instantly have your heartstrings firmly in their grasp.  A marriage, i believe, takes a conscious commitment and keeping our marriage bed a place where we can nurture each other&#8217;s needs is important to us.  I honestly haven&#8217;t seen many well-rested co-sleeping parents, which is something you&#8217;re discovering, so I suppose that has been a definite benefit <img
src='http://www.inhabitots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> My son likes his crib, he feels safe and comfortable there, it&#8217;s made specifically with the safety of a baby in mind.  We make it a pleasant place and he even plays there sometimes as I wash off his cloth diapers after changing him.  I think those things are key when asking a child to sleep anywhere, that it be a safe, secure, and comfortable place.  Almost any place can be like that if approached with the right attitude by the parent.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kj</title><link>http://www.inhabitots.com/2009/02/25/the-great-sleep-debate-tell-us-what-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-2932</link> <dc:creator>Kj</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:38:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.inhabitots.com/?p=9908#comment-2932</guid> <description>It has been great reading the different experiences. As Aaron we are also quite lucky. Our baby girl started sleeping through the night in a matter of weeks after birth. As a result of birth-complications, she was sent to a ward for some days, and although we had a lot of contact with her during the day, she was without us at night, but under a lot of care from the nurses. She got a pacifier as a result from her failing to calm down in the ward. So when we went home with her, she was a caesarian born baby already addicted to the pacifier and supplemental feeding. Felt like the perfect start for a challenging childhood. (The long term consequences are still to be revealed ;) )
We co-slept for the first few days, with a lot of air between us (put in another bed). This was as much for us to be happy, as I never liked sleeping in a packed situation.  We were not sure that she was getting enough milk from her mother, so we balanced it out with formula. She didn&#039;t really notice her being put in own crib after some days, and we started an on-the clock feeding regime, also at night, both getting up if I wasn&#039;t going to work. We learned her behaviour whenever she needed extra formula. The days before D-day when she slept through the night, we fed her well before night set, and when she woke, we tried to reintoduce the pacifier, and listened for a while. We have been advised to go the cry-it-out route, but cut it off after a certain time, pretty much based on when it felt evil not to pick her up. A couple nights later she was getting a good 10 hours (yay). It has been a breeze so long, nine months later. We try to reduce pacifier-use, but she controls this pretty much herself. She is an extremely happy and calm baby (but not complacent and dull!), and we feel extremely lucky. Admitting to the fact that one of the early motivations was for both of us to get enough sleep, the tools of our time, pacifier and formula, has probably been an important ingredient. But I honestly don&#039;t know it was essential. A consequence of liberal use of formula is that she did not want breastmilk after four months.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been great reading the different experiences. As Aaron we are also quite lucky. Our baby girl started sleeping through the night in a matter of weeks after birth. As a result of birth-complications, she was sent to a ward for some days, and although we had a lot of contact with her during the day, she was without us at night, but under a lot of care from the nurses. She got a pacifier as a result from her failing to calm down in the ward. So when we went home with her, she was a caesarian born baby already addicted to the pacifier and supplemental feeding. Felt like the perfect start for a challenging childhood. (The long term consequences are still to be revealed <img
src='http://www.inhabitots.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> )<br
/> We co-slept for the first few days, with a lot of air between us (put in another bed). This was as much for us to be happy, as I never liked sleeping in a packed situation.  We were not sure that she was getting enough milk from her mother, so we balanced it out with formula. She didn&#8217;t really notice her being put in own crib after some days, and we started an on-the clock feeding regime, also at night, both getting up if I wasn&#8217;t going to work. We learned her behaviour whenever she needed extra formula. The days before D-day when she slept through the night, we fed her well before night set, and when she woke, we tried to reintoduce the pacifier, and listened for a while. We have been advised to go the cry-it-out route, but cut it off after a certain time, pretty much based on when it felt evil not to pick her up. A couple nights later she was getting a good 10 hours (yay). It has been a breeze so long, nine months later. We try to reduce pacifier-use, but she controls this pretty much herself. She is an extremely happy and calm baby (but not complacent and dull!), and we feel extremely lucky. Admitting to the fact that one of the early motivations was for both of us to get enough sleep, the tools of our time, pacifier and formula, has probably been an important ingredient. But I honestly don&#8217;t know it was essential. A consequence of liberal use of formula is that she did not want breastmilk after four months.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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